He Died and Came Back - Near Death Experience with Jacob Cooper, LCSW Episode 18
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Jacob Cooper, LCSW is the author of Life After Breath: How a Brush with Fatality Gave Me a Glimpse of Immortality about his Near Death Experience.
What is it like to actually have a Near Death Experience? Jacob Cooper, LCSW had one when he was only four years old. He shares what it felt like to suddenly not be able to breathe (he had an undiagnosed whooping cough) in the middle of playing. He felt his brain split and then he went to “The Other Side.” Many people report seeing deceased loved ones and having a life review. But at only four? Jacob explains that yes that did happen, and what was even reviewed when he was so young. He shares the beings/discarnate consciousnesses he met, how he struggled and didn’t want to come back. How hard it was for him to come back to being such a little child after such a profound experience. He not only came back wiser than his age, he also had “psychic abilities” and shares an amazing time he “knew” something about the future of a boy (who was actually a bully) in his high school class.
For a first hand account of what it is like to die and why Jacob is convinced there is an afterlife, check out this episode.
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What is it like to have a Near Death Experience.
Near Death Experiencer Jacob Cooper, LCSW who is the author of Life After Breath, discusses the Near Death Experience he had when he was only four years old in an Instagram Live with Liz of WTF Just Happened?!. Liz and Jacob met at the Forever Family Foundation Grief Retreat when Jacob presented his book and where they became friends. Jacob shares that his book about his NDE is endorsed by many prominent NDE and afterlife researchers. This includes Dr. Bernie Siegel, Anita Moorjani, Dr. Raymond Moody and the psychic mediums Marc Anthony and Suzanne Giesemann.
Liz explains that an NDE (Near Death Experience) is when someone physically passes away for a short period of time until they are medically revived. Jacob experienced this when he was only four years old.
Can NDE’s be distressing or scary? Is death scary?
While many NDEs (most in fact) are described as euphoric, Jacob also experienced some distressing aspects. However he still thinks when you fully cross over it ends up being euphoric. But being between the two worlds, can have distressing aspects. He explains how he was deprived of oxygen and suddenly felt as if his brain snapped in half and cracked open. It was traumatic as well as highly spiritual. He realized, even at that young age, that he just had to surrender to this inability to breathe. He had to “let go” of this feeling of suffocating which essentially meant letting go of his body.
We don’t have the words to explain what having an NDE is like.
Jacob can’t really explain what it is like to have an NDE. There aren’t the proper words in the English language. It is basically beyond language to fully capture the experience. There are words and colors and sounds and feelings, that are so far beyond this reality, so we have to use a limited context. It is kind of like being an artist, where you use a canvas to depict it as accurately as possible.
Do people still have lasting effects and feelings from their Near Death Experience?
IG LIVE Viewer Question: This viewer has had two NDEs , one where her horse reared up and one where she almost drowned, but she found them pain free and came away unscathed. Does Jacob still have any physical effects?
Jacob shares how this NDE was a combination of the most traumatic thing he has ever experienced combined with the most euphoric and rewarding. Definitely the complete loss of his ability to breathe was awful at the time and he felt pain, but then the pain. went away and he felt euphoric to be released and to realize pain does not last forever.
Seeing new colors and deceased loved ones during an NDE - Near Death Experience
Jacob can’t accurately describe the colors he saw. The best he can explain is that he saw is kind of like a bronze and gold color. He also experienced meeting his spirit guides and seeing loved ones. Coming to this place felt kind of like remembering, as if he had had amnesia while being a human and then he was remembering these beings and this place. And he experienced what he describes as the “infinite” which he doesn’t feel there really are words for.
Do we see angles when we die?
Jacob had also said that he saw angels and Liz wants him to elaborate. What does he mean by that word. To her that is something that is made up and fantasy, not anything real that we would experience even when we pass away. Angel means those statues and ornaments with little wings. Jacob replies that art does come from somewhere and when you are an artist you are tapping into some higher awareness. So these paintings of angels, he thinks, are somewhat accurate. He thinks that there's higher angelic beings, such as archangels, spiritual guides, and what we call guardian angels, which are really contracted with us before we came into this body and maybe have been with us in other lifetimes. He thinks these beings are on different vibrational frequencies. They are also wiser and understand the human condition but with a perspective. These beings are not necessarily concerned with an individual but more concerned with the energy field and the planet. he shares how overall he learned during this NDE that this realm is right there, and we recognize it when we return to it, and it is really surprising how thin the veil is between the two dimensions.
Do people who had NDE’s believe in God?
IG Live Viewer questions: Was Jacob religious or from a religious family?
He was and he explains a bit about what that was like having had an NDE and seeing the reality of The Other Side but being raised in a religious family. Overall he thinks that religion is kind of a god outside of itself and spirituality is like an inner “god,” or a type of an inner awareness. He thinks the afterlife exists not because of religion, but despite it, in a way. He continues to share other ways he felt different from his family and what that was like at such a young age.
IG Live Viewer questions: Was Jacob out of his body within the earth realm during his experience?
He explains that he was aware of earth and what was going on here while being out of his body. It felt like he had multiple forms of awareness. It almost felt like being a rubber band where he was snapped to different areas and awarenesses. Then he describes what it felt like when he was suddenly back in his body. It was not easy and he felt lots of anger and discomfort. He also had a lot of anger afterwards due to the trauma of an NDE. It was also difficult and frightening to know so much more than the adults. He didn’t get to have his parents on pedestals, the way many kids do. Also, the way everyone only saw the “body” and the surface of what people are felt difficult.
Psychic abilities are an after effect of an NDE
Often when people come back to this world from an NDE, they have psychic abilities and intuitive abilities. Jacob thinks we all have some intuitive abilities, but some of us develop this further. His NDE did allow him to open up these abilities. Liz asks him to share the biggest what the fuck’s he had related to these psychic abilities, and Jacob shared a “knowing” he had about another kid in his high school. While this kid was a bully, this was still not a happy, feel-good knowing, but one that ended up being very evidential.
Death is not the end
A type of “knowing” Jacob has also developed is a knowing about death. Along with premonitions, he has an awareness of death sometimes, because having this close brush with fatality. But he does not like to use the word death, because it implies the end. It sounds as if there is no continuity, but from his experience, that is the opposite of what happens when we cross over. Liz compares a way she has had of understanding this concept that we are more than our body. We are constantly changing our physical definitions of ourselves. We are a baby or are a high school student etc. Those external definitions that we associate with ourselves are not constant or who we always are.
Jacob also explains if he thinks that we live life on other planets, what happens before and after the big bang/ big crunch with our consciousness, do we live multiple lives, and other topics that veer between philosophy, possibility, and actual evidence. For a fascinating conversation on death from someone who has been there, done that, check out this conversation with Jacob Cooper, LCSW.
Notes and Resources:
Anita Moorjani
- Dying to be Me
Dr. Bernie Siegel
Dr. Eben Alexander
Dr. Raymond Moody
Forever Family Foundation
Heaven is for Real by Colton Burpo
Love, Dad by Mike Anthony
Marc Anthony
NDE - Near Death Experience
Netflix - Surviving Death
Dr. Raymond Moody
Suzanne Giesemann
The Boy Who Came Back from Heaven by Alex Malarkey